Sting nets 10 looking for prostitutes

BY ANDREW WELLNER
Frontiersman
Published on Thursday, October 29, 2009 8:25 PM AKDT

PALMER — A prostitution sting operation last week landed 10 alleged johns in jail, police announced Tuesday.

Detective Sgt. Kelly Turney with the Palmer Police Department said the operation was set up online with an undercover female cop posing as a prostitute. The johns agreed to meet for a rendezvous, set up a specific price for a specific service and were arrested.

“They showed up at a location that we had already arranged to have set up,” he said.

Turney wouldn’t get into specifics about exactly how or where the arrests went down. But, he said, prostitution stings aren’t common in the Valley.  

“To my knowledge this is the first time something like this has been done in the Valley,” he said. “We’re going to continue to address this issue.”

He said there’s a lot of different ways to deal with prostitution and police have to look at more than one approach.

“Folks say, ‘How come you’re only going after the johns and not the girls?’ But, like I said, it’s a multi-faceted approach to be able to deal with any issue,” the sergeant said. “You have the same issue when it comes to narcotics. Do you bust the users to get to the dealers? Do you bust the dealers but not the users?”

Prostitution, at least around the Valley, is mainly an online phenomenon, Turney said. There are multiple websites to arrange a local rendezvous.

“We get complaints every once in awhile and I know that Wasilla had gotten some complaints about this sort of stuff going on online,” he said.

The operation, he said, was put on in support of Operation Cross Country, a nationwide effort the FBI spearheaded in 36 cities nationwide the same week as the Valley arrests. The FBI sought to tamp down on child prostitution and human trafficking and said in a press release that it had rescued 52 children being exploited for prostitution and arrested 60 pimps.

Though the Valley operation was different, Turney said, it’s a step in that direction.

“By doing this you’re able to interview those johns to find out, ‘Do you know of anybody who has underage girls or of anybody that might be basically enslaved to this life of prostitution?’” he said.

Asked if prostitution was a problem in the Valley, he said it was surprising to see how many people responded to the phony prostitute.

“By the number of phone calls that we received in a two-day period, I’d say it’s a problem,” he said. “Can we stop it? Probably not. Can we put a big dent in it and show it won’t be tolerated in the community? Absolutely.”

Arrested for soliciting prostitution were:

• Steven A. Brown, 58, of Wasilla

• Carl D. Cook, 44, of Anchorage  

• Jeremy Firth, 30, of Wasilla

• Tyler Henslee, 31, of Anchorage

• Gregory S. Hutchins, 50, of Wasilla

• Scottie R. Mack, 27, of Wasilla

• Gregory C. Ray, 42, of Palmer

• Christopher J. Schoff, 46, of Eagle River

• Christopher Seeley, 31, of Palmer

• Vitaly Zhuchkov, 18, of Wasilla

Contact Andrew Wellner at andrew.wellner@frontiersman.com or 352-2270.

Copyright © 2009 Frontiersman

Comments

156 comment(s)

    colony mom wrote on Nov 14, 2009 8:56 AM:

    " The bottom line is. The men in this story have a problem. Coach or just a man accross the street they chose to seek a thrill of a sexual incounter for money. It is called sexual addiction. It is also against the law. This isn't probably the first time or the last they have tried. It also isn't the only way they search for thier fix. They should not be around young girls in any situation at any time until they get help for thier problem. Thier secret is out, and I guarentee it isn't the only secret they have.WAKE.UP.PEOPLE "

    If Teacher Fired wrote on Nov 14, 2009 5:38 AM:

    " What if a teacher had done the same thing? Would you Colony parents be o.k. with it? "Go ahead and model for my daughter that women are commodities to be bought and sold...." Really?

    The entire Colony community has lost whatever small grasp it had on perspective and non-sports things. Enjoy those championships -- they come at a very, very steep price. "

    still concerned wrote on Nov 11, 2009 7:29 PM:

    " not one coach makes an athlete, not one teacher makes a student...colony girls basketball has been great for years, they were great long before coach ray and will be great long after coach ray. in fact, the state winning chs girls don't even know who he is and the future state winning girls wont know him either.
    he is given too much credit. i sure respect the parents that will be making a change. "

    to JP wrote on Nov 9, 2009 1:21 PM:

    " JP let me explain this to you, entrapment is a very simple thing. If i come to you sitting at a resturaunt and say you want to buy some drugs, you buy and i arrest you that would be entrapment. If the cops post an ad on craigslist and you email the cops willing to pay money for sex, that is not entrapment, you on your own were looking for a prostitute, you just picked the wrong one, no one planted a seed of crime in your mind except you! "

    ALASKAVERITAS wrote on Nov 8, 2009 3:17 PM:

    " This was not entrapment. Entrapment is not a defense if the defendant was ready and willing to commit a crime and the law enforcement agency was not inducing the defendant to do something that they would otherwise not do. In sting cases like this, there is no entrapment. Nobody made the defendant solicit. The defendants did that on their own. These are legal strategies in the detection and prosecution of crimes. Casey v United States and subsequent rullings from this case have well stablished rules for these types of investigations. "

    jp wrote on Nov 8, 2009 1:05 PM:

    " Kyle, they advertised an illegal act (this is an illegal act for anyone) for purpose of selling sexual favors, with the intent to entrap perpetrators, by committing a fraudulent act.
    i'm quite certain if you did this, you'd get in big trouble, so why are they allowed to?
    what you're saying is "it's okay for police to break the law" and "they don't have to abide by the same laws as the citizens do"
    apparently this must be the case, since i see cops passing on the right, running red lights. "

    Valley Feminist wrote on Nov 8, 2009 11:38 AM:

    " I have to wonder what the response would be if this were a female coach or teacher who had been arrrested for prostitution. I suspect no one would be defending her like they have the coach in question.I also do not think there would be comments about her husband not doing what he should at home. After 20 years in the valley none of htis surprises me. There are more hypocrites per square mile here than just about anywhere in the world. I can't wait to see what I get called after this post! "

    Think about it wrote on Nov 8, 2009 10:27 AM:

    " The fact is these bozos broke the law. Whether you think it is a dumb law or not, it is still a law. We hire cops to enforce the law. They don't make up the law, Nobody forced these men to look for prostitutes. Not the cops, not their wives, not their mothers. They brought this on themselves. We need to stop bailing people out and placing blame elsewhere. People need to be responsible for their own actions. These men obvioulsly lack good judgement and demonstrate questionable character. The cops did them and us a favor. "

    Whoa wrote on Nov 7, 2009 10:08 PM:

    " Why don't we relocate the Bball people to the sports page where they can continue their catty commentary about parents, players and coaches (as is standard valley procedure), and let these men pay their dues while we all ruminate on our moral superiority. Make decisions for your own family and get on with examining they ways to learn from the mistakes of others. Come on! WWJD? "

    kidrev2000 wrote on Nov 7, 2009 1:26 AM:

    " It is interesting how many readers have such broad opinions over one small article in a small newspaper.
    We pretend to play the experts. And regard ourselves with a higher opinion than we ought. De we really know more than our local law enforcement? At the end of the day when we are in trouble, they are the ones to call. In my experienece... they do their jobs regardless of our opinions of them! "

    Hoops wrote on Nov 6, 2009 6:48 PM:

    " To Beth Tweed, those girls are not amazing athletes. They are unbelievable, especially that point guard who just moved here. I believe that she is one of the best that we've seen! "

    Hoops wrote on Nov 6, 2009 4:53 PM:

    " To Beth Tweed, those girls are not amazing athletes. They are unbelievable, especially that point guard who just moved here. I believe that she is one of the best that we've seen! "

    Kyle wrote on Nov 6, 2009 4:47 PM:

    " JP and Leon, you two just can't seem to understand what entrapment is and hang on that issue. You should stop showing your ignorance. It was not entrapment. No laws were broken. Oh yeah, you complain about the rules for Craiglist and somehow think the cops violated them. Well, those are just Craiglist rules, not a law and guess what, cops can break the law to enforce the law. They speed to catch speeders, its a necessity. They have boundaries of course and in this case, they were well within them. "

    Wrong wrote on Nov 6, 2009 12:56 PM:

    " My daughter mentioned to me how this guy has a myspace page set up with his basketball players pictures all over it...If it was my daughter was on his myspace page I would demand he takes it down. Last thing I want is for my 14 year old daughter to have internet contact with this guy...to me it seems a bit odd/creepy. He might be a decent coach but at some point he needs to check his morals "

    correction wrote on Nov 6, 2009 10:41 AM:

    " Not all Colony parents are behind this coach.......some of us see his ugly side. "

    basketball coach wrote on Nov 6, 2009 9:08 AM:

    " Anybody could coach that group of girls and be successful. Mistake or no mistake...how could any parent let this guy take their daughter on roadtrips to the lower 48, stay in the same hotel as them, and trust him? The man is fake...maybe to the public he is a good guy but look behind the scenes its not hard to see what he does in his spare time... "

    Beth Tweed wrote on Nov 5, 2009 9:14 PM:

    " these girls are amazing atheletes because they have had a great coach for the past 4 years,and dedicated themselves to the game. My daughter has played for him for 4 years and will continue to do so with my blessing~she will also travel outside to play ball with him as her coach....why is this any of anyone's business besides the parents? self-rightous hypocrits! Yea, anyone could coach them, but some of us don't want "just anyone" and we will stay with him. Mind your own business and don't worry about us! "

    Nobodies perfect wrote on Nov 5, 2009 9:04 PM:

    " You are right no kids were around when he went to pay for sex. If the coach chose to sell drugs to adults, hit a woman, steal a car all is good as long as no kids were around. Outstanding reasoning, I wonder if this coach lost all games he coached these girls would the colony parents rally behind him then. Front runners and winning trophies allows many concessions for these parents. "

    Nobodys Perfect wrote on Nov 5, 2009 3:32 PM:

    " Oh please. How many times have you broken the law by speeding, and then you teach your kid to drive? How many times have you broken the law by speeding with your kid in the car? The coach did not hire a hooker in front of kids, kids were never involved, while you can't honestly say you have never broken the law yourself. Sanctimonious hypocrits make me sick, I wish you would shut your pie holes already. "

    To Ms Evans wrote on Nov 5, 2009 9:19 AM:

    " I'm not passing judgment. Facts are facts, he did something illegal. And as a mentor to young children he should not make those choices.How do you explain to your child that this was OK?Do you make excuses for him?Yes it was one mistake, we all make them. But we all don't spend countless hours with other peoples children preaching what kind of person they should be.So many girls look up to him.What kind of message did he just send them?I know him, my daughter knows him.She is disgusted with his CHOICE to treat women this way.Does he have self respect? "

    jp wrote on Nov 5, 2009 9:01 AM:

    " Leon, i agree with your statement 100% and can only add; they have been found guilty by the police, media, and public, before they even get their day in court!
    I smell a lawsuit that any decent lawyer could make bank off of!!! "

    This stuff happens wrote on Nov 5, 2009 7:53 AM:

    " Sex sting nets 50 people: Craigslist suspect on officers' minds
    Publication: Telegram & Gazette (Worcester, MA)
    Date: Monday, April 20 2009
    Police Capt. Paul B. Saucier, head of the vice squad which spearheaded the sting, said police targeted men looking to meet women for sex through Craigslist postings and also women offering sex for cash over the Web site.
    Twenty people were arrested in the Craigslist sting, where police set up at a city hotel and either arrested women there to meet a man or men who responded to the undercover officer's post.

    Not a new technique. "

    leon wrote on Nov 5, 2009 6:23 AM:

    " Soliciting Prostitution? the Police were offering prostitution services for revenue, and these men simply implied, wrong ? yes, but last time I checked so was entrapment, i hate to be a jerk but the police broke more federal laws in offering a service especialy one with benefits"Monetary compensation" than the pathetic johns did in inquiring about the services "

    safety wrote on Nov 4, 2009 7:25 PM:

    " i dont want him crusified I just dont want my daughter to play for him nor do i want her lpressured by her peers or parents of her peers to keep playing. "

    Lisa Evans wrote on Nov 4, 2009 6:26 PM:

    " By the grace of God go every single one of you who sit behind a fake name and pass judgement. The choices I make as a parent regarding who coaches my daughter is none of your concern. I'm sure you will spend time anonymously posting comments about what a bad parent I am and question my motives, but it will not change my opinion about one of several coaches who have helped my daughter develop her skills on the court and her character off. Mind your own business and worry about your own kids! "

    Enough wrote on Nov 4, 2009 3:17 PM:

    " If you have never had a conversation with this man then how can you judge by ONE MISTAKE. Who out there hasn’t made a mistake..granted it was a big one..but everyone deserves a second chance and kicking someone when they’re down is about as low as it gets. Why don’t you hang a cross in the middle of town so you can crucify him…maybe that will shut you up. "

    Enough wrote on Nov 4, 2009 3:17 PM:

    " Enough with the bball coach comments...the reason a lot of these girls are good is because they have spent countless hours in the gym being coached by a man who wants to help them succeed. They didn’t start out as star players. Did you see them their first year together then see them after they had worked under him? BIG difference. All the seedy comments regarding the girls safety is RIDICULOUS, and when you start telling other people how to raise their children you better be ready to open yourself up to receiving criticism about your own parenting skills cont'd "

    concerned wrote on Nov 4, 2009 12:58 PM:

    " someone please tell me why he ( basketball coach) can't work in schools. "

    hmmmm wrote on Nov 4, 2009 11:15 AM:

    " I wonder which parents will be the first to pull their kids out of the comp program in the best interest of their child? Probably none! For some reason this coach is believed to be a god and he is the only reason these girls win. Even their own parents don't see the gift of talent these girls have. "

    Nobodys Perfect wrote on Nov 4, 2009 5:14 AM:

    " I just realized that one of the men arrested made a comment here apologizing. Mr. Hutchins showed strength and courage for that. I hope the marriages affected by this are healed and that it causes both parties in the marriages to look at where they are, and where they once were. It is easy to place all of the blame on the men now that they crossed the line and did this, and I am just saying it is unfair to place ALL of the blame on the guy. Those marriages did not get to that place over night. "

    handcuffs wrote on Nov 3, 2009 8:37 PM:

    " i could coach these girls to wins with a blindfold on and my hands cuffed behind my back (no pun intended!) they don't need a coach with a record!
    or one in handcuffs for that matter!!!! "

    blinded wrote on Nov 3, 2009 8:35 PM:

    " how blinded must these parents be to allow their little girls to spend what should be quality time with a man with such a questionable background. and if you don't think it is questionable you need to look deeper! "

    girls have game wrote on Nov 3, 2009 8:31 PM:

    " if the parents of these girls don't realize that ANYONE could coach these star athletes to wins, they are mistaken. anyone could coach this group of girls to victory (blindfolded). someone needs to step up and coach so the parents and athletes have a choice to not be coached by a criminal. "

    background wrote on Nov 3, 2009 8:27 PM:

    " should someone check this coaches background as to why he was let go as a high school coach and cant get a school coaching job! why is he allowed to coach our children in comp. ? "

    still concerned wrote on Nov 3, 2009 8:24 PM:

    " what is this world coming to? only two weeks past the arrest and he is working one on one with young girls in a public school gym late at night. we need to be concerned, very concerned about the safety of these young girls! "

    Opened a huge can of worms wrote on Nov 3, 2009 3:48 PM:

    " The posts here show both ends of the spectrum. Women who really think very little of men, and men who are very frustrated with marriage and the lady in their life. Lets hope that this story helps us middle aged husbands and wives understand each other better. We do not want to become the angry people who either blame women for the reason men go to ladies of the night or the ladies that posted who view all men as pigs. "

    Someones brother got arrested... wrote on Nov 3, 2009 9:09 AM:

    " Numerous "posts" on here are done by the same person. I think prostitution is terrible and I'M glad they got into this, I'm surprised it was this easy for them to get this many people. Men be men and quit trying to buy time with women who have nothing else going for them in their lives. I am not perfect, but I am not going to "ah shucks" tolerate this kind of thing where I live, good job law enforcement. Those who hate this can move to Nevada it's legal there. PS-Watch your kids and make sure they aren't solicited-by-these-"law-abiders." "

    basketball mom wrote on Nov 3, 2009 8:54 AM:

    " need our guidance.And as for Mr. Hutchins....good for you for taking responsibility for your actions. I hope everything works out for you and your family . "

    basketball mom wrote on Nov 3, 2009 8:51 AM:

    " Really "amazed" you think this sting was set up to persecute a coach? Wow, he has magical powers.If he was never doing something illegal "they" would have nothing to say. Why don't you put blame where it lies. He did this to himself.And really this and the moose incident are two different issues. They are both wrong and horrible and need to be dealt with appropriately.I don't feel prostitution is a small issue when your a self proclaimed "mentor" who CHILDREN look up to.Lets face it, as grown up as we think our children are, they are still children who "

    whoa wrote on Nov 3, 2009 8:50 AM:

    " Look at a person's reaction to being caught. Do they own up and take responsibility, do they apologize to people they hurt, do they take steps to assure those who matter that it will not happen again? Do they use themselves as a teaching tool to young people and all people? Do they rebuild their lives with better habits? The best drug counselors are ex-addicts. This is no different. Love the person who does the above and let them heal themselves and the people they have let down. Choose your involvement. let others dosame "

    To Nobodys perfect wrote on Nov 3, 2009 8:33 AM:

    " Really has nothing to do with marriage. Has to do with the FACT that men are out right pigs and have no respect for women or themselves. Statistics show most unhappily married men don't pay for sex they begin affairs with other unhappy women. Get a clue these men thought they could pay some $$$ and get what ever they wanted and not get caught. Ha Ha. I hear sex is free in JAIL. "

    Valley local wrote on Nov 3, 2009 8:29 AM:

    " Whether it is thrown out or not they still had plans to pay a prostitute for sex. They got arrested and their names appear in the paper. Boo Hoo. And JP it is not entrapment. I see those ads all the time on CL and I don't make the call for sex. Ever heard of a bait car. One left running with the keys in it. Holds in court every time. To amazed. Has nothing to do with school. The coach in question is not employed by the school district. Nice try! "

    amazed wrote on Nov 3, 2009 1:18 AM:

    " The only reason this is getting any attention is because some people and school officials are trying to persecute someone. Compared to those kids at Colony Middle who killed the moose last year, this is a small issue. "

    RickyD wrote on Nov 2, 2009 7:47 PM:

    " Embarrassment is a good deterrent. "

    life lesson wrote on Nov 2, 2009 7:42 PM:

    " I am so glad there are so many PERFECT people in the Valley. I guess they missed the sermon on forgiveness. I would rather teach my kids that people make mistakes and need forgiveness, than to teach them people make mistakes so kick them down and cast stones at them. "

    So you know this guy wrote on Nov 2, 2009 4:24 PM:

    " And he is an a fine, upstanding, community member? Really? wow. Also thinks it is okay to break the law. Not someone I would want coaching my daughter. We don't teach our children to choose which laws to obey. This man's character is now in question. "

    UK wrote on Nov 2, 2009 1:15 PM:

    " Good luck to any Valley prostitues getting work this week! "

    Dan wrote on Nov 2, 2009 12:34 PM:

    " LET HE WHO HAS NEVER SINNED CAST THE FIRST STONE.....enough said! "

    basketball mom wrote on Nov 2, 2009 12:15 PM:

    " I am so disappointed that some basketball parents think it is OK to support this coach just because he can win a game.He has done great things for the valley but this is so wrong. He just taught young men its OK to treat women like objects you can purchase, and he taught young girls its OK to be purchased.Yes, he is single and an adult who can do what he wants, but he CHOSE to be a mentor to young people, they didn't chose him.Great example.Do the right thing and resign. "

    jp wrote on Nov 2, 2009 10:18 AM:

    " just the simple fact that the police were actively engaged in an "entrapment scheme" and broke the law by their own advertisement, ought to be enough to get all these cases thrown out of court.
    The fact that these peoples names were released "as guilty parties" before their "court conviction" would leave the city and borough open for a civil suit, and probable punishment by state leaders.
    Innocent until proven guilty"
    what is wrong with this people?
    time to stand up! "

    Nobodys Perfect wrote on Nov 2, 2009 7:40 AM:

    " I was just responding to the poster that talked about how the wives are TOTAL VICTIMS for their husband's betrayal. I was just pointing out that these married guys are not in happy marriages. Marriage is a two way street, if the marriage is lacking the wife needs to take on some of that responsibility. "

    Valley Man wrote on Nov 1, 2009 8:31 PM:

    " Has anybody here studied the degradations caused by prostitution in countries where it runs rampant? Legalize it and you open up a can of worms. It's always interesting to me how supposed moral relativists always draw imaginary lines somewhere. If it's not prostitution it's child molestation. But why child molestation? Could it be that they are suffering from a little bit of a "Bible Thumper" hangover? Are they being honest with themselves? There are plenty of sickening groups that justify such activities. How does the relativist defend his fictitious morality? Look, either there are moral absolutes or there are not. "

    whoa wrote on Nov 1, 2009 8:05 PM:

    " Please, please do not post things about these men being a danger to children. The valley bust was not a case of adults contacting and arranging to meet a child, but an adult woman. You all know there is a big difference in THAT crime for sure. Dangerous game were playing- slipping that accusation in there where it is not warranted. Would you like to lose your kids? Punish, not persecute "

    watcher wrote on Nov 1, 2009 4:42 PM:

    " Wow. This is better than reading the funnies. Lunatic ranting to eliminate any and all law enforcement. Wackos blaming men's wifes for their decision to pay a prostitute. It's absolutely amazing! If it wasn't so absurd it would be hilarious. "

    Nobodys Perfect wrote on Nov 1, 2009 1:22 PM:

    " Now those wives can hold it over their husband's heads forever. What joy. The fact is, marriage is a two way street, if the wives were physical with their husbands his name probably would not be in the paper. Time for these wives to recognize that maybe... just maybe they are cold fish. Guys are physical and do not require intimacy to enjoy being physical. I wonder if the wives would prefer that their husband had an affair with a woman he LOVES to just paying a hooker. "

    LP wrote on Nov 1, 2009 1:00 PM:

    " I personally know one of the men on your"hit list." Every time I inadvertently mention his name people have nothing but positive things to say. He has given his heart and soul to the community and has been very instrumental in forming a gathering place for individuals to become more physically fit. As far as our beaurocratic rules and laws, grown men can choose to have consentual relations with adult women. Shame on you judgmental naysayers who have all engaged in pornographic images in your lifetime. I will always stand by this man as a friend. "

    AK_patriot wrote on Nov 1, 2009 10:41 AM:

    " Sc**bag cops victimizing the citizens who pay their salaries. Alaska was a live and let live state but now we are overrun with cops and judges and courts and Feds and FBI and Homeland security. Lots of people in Wasilla and Palmer have a low tolerance for government intrusion and Barney Fife pipsqueeks with a badge. People move up here to be left alone. This is another example of a victimless crime. Who is the victim here? Government is out of control. Vote down every measure for police funding, and lets kick the Feds out of the state. "

    Jason Smealy wrote on Nov 1, 2009 8:57 AM:

    " To :What ever happened to
    Are you crazy? There is no Jury trial for this. And as far as the listing of names goes it is public record. The newspaper lists all the names in a police report in every issue. Do a crim and get in the paper. Last I checked being gay, sleeping around and flirting in bars was not illegal. But prostitution is. These men should have known better. They ruined their own marriages. Stop blaming society for their stupidity. "

    to Legalize wrote on Nov 1, 2009 8:23 AM:

    " Gee, great argument. Much better to just 'legalize' those crimes that are a blight on society. And, somehow, that ties into those people that are 'Bible thumpers' (don't quite get that. I didn't realize that 'Bible thumpers' held a monopoly on morality and decency). Your post sounds like something right out of a liberal extremist playbook. "

    What ever happened to wrote on Nov 1, 2009 7:08 AM:

    " Going in front of a jurry and being found guilty of a crime? This is terrible to list these names until they have been found guilty. What if 1 of the men are not really guilty of this? His life is ruined. What a terrible shame in all reguards. Should we list all people who sleep around? Should we list who is gay? Should we list wives that flirt in a bar with other men? This was sleeze reporting. "

    Carrie S wrote on Oct 31, 2009 11:22 PM:

    " I know one of the guys on the list. I feel really sorry for his wife, how humiliating and hurtful for her. While he deserved to be caught, I feel sorry for her because she has to deal with his betrayal and she also has to deal with humiliation and people looking at HER and questioning why her husband was out looking for sex elsewhere. She has to deal with people wondering if SHE is somehow inadequate, and that is not fair to her. "

    Palmer Dad wrote on Oct 31, 2009 9:49 PM:

    " No wonder this State has so many problem's with sex crimes everyone thinks it's ok.. Wait until coach rapes a little girl or boy then we can say well how did this happen where was the police. good job ppd wpd thanks for watching out for my wife and kids. "

    Greg hutchins wrote on Oct 31, 2009 8:41 PM:

    " the sting operation was a better success then I think the police realized. My arrest was an anwser to prayer, I didn't know God was going to get my attention this way but in spite of the hurt and pain i have caused my family and friends I am getting help, the arrest was bigger than my ego, the hurt greater then my fear and the recovery process exposes it all. I will get to be transparent again and redefine what is important, like God, family, friends and Love. Please forgive me I need and love my wife. "

    Legalize it wrote on Oct 31, 2009 3:34 PM:

    " I wonder how many less abortions there would be if we had legalized prostitution? Instead of young men knocking up a young lady and then having an abortion or getting married to jet be married, would they not utilize the services of a prostitute? Make it legal, regulate it, tax it, ensure protection is utlized and it wouldn't be the big deal it is today. Remember, abortion was once illegal too! Look at Nevada for a good example. It works there fine, why not here. Less STDs, less unwanted pregnancies, less males aggression and less bible thumping. "

    valley resident wrote on Oct 31, 2009 9:45 AM:

    " I would just like to say that what these men did were wrong, but hey did you reallly need to post their names before you posted the whole story? Now people are talking about these men all around town when really no one has the real story. Next time you want to post names frontiersman, get the whole story first, it would cut down on all the drama. "

    To look in the mirror wrote on Oct 31, 2009 12:00 AM:

    " I look in the mirror and I see a man who has a wife and kids and has never purchased prostitution. I am sorry when you look in the mirror you see a man who obviously has low self esteem and a low regard for women. Secondly I wouldn't assume everyone is like you. Not all men or women smoke pot or use prostitutes. Lastly funny how you throw pot in the mix when one has nothing to do with the other. "

    Its a sad world..cont wrote on Oct 30, 2009 11:07 PM:

    " Instead of having things hid from me thinking that the people working with my kids are good moral people with good ethics. The real scam artist can put on a good front and pull the wool over your eyes. So if someone doesn't think the law applies to them and they have no ethics are they really someone that should be working with kids? Well if you believe they should be shouldn't each parent have the right to know the truth and make their own judgment? So thank you frontiersman for the information. "

    Its a sad world wrote on Oct 30, 2009 11:02 PM:

    " How sad it is that the majority of people find this to be acceptable behavior. What laws do you follow? The one's that are only good for you for the day? Every time someone breaks the law it's public record. If you don't want your name posted than don't break the law, it's that easy. I as a parent would like to know the kind of people that are working with my kids and be able to make the decision on my own if they are worthy of being around my kids....cont. "

    wow wrote on Oct 30, 2009 3:33 PM:

    " Well to say its not about the children is completely irresponsible. As was stated already at least on person on that list is a local comp basketball coach, a coach who travels out of state with these young girls, to places like Vegas and what not. He also coaches young boys, great example to our young boys. I for one would never let my son or daughter play for someone who I found out thought prostitution was ok. Good job PPD and WPD, and I am sure craigslist has no problem with the police handling there problem for them. "

    Typical wrote on Oct 30, 2009 1:54 PM:

    " The views of society today expressed in your opinions are so typical.

    Take responsability for your actions. Bottom line!

    You dont want your name in the police blotter,dont be stupid. You are not the victim you are the perpetrator. You hurt your family and friends and now you need to own up to it.
    Its not the police or govts fault its yours.

    Post all the names and then they will think twice to do something stupid again. Make it a crime in the publics eye and see if they turn the other cheek. "

    DanInWasilla wrote on Oct 30, 2009 1:46 PM:

    " Where in this whole article does it say anything about pedophiles. People need to read for content and then make comments. They placed an "adult" ad, for adult services and arrested adults...It pathetic enough these guys have to go through the embarrassment to have their names pasted for all to see, but don't make them out to be pedophiles when it NEVER said that in the article. "

    Look in the mirror wrote on Oct 30, 2009 1:38 PM:

    " If we could pluck everyone male and female off the streets who had ever engaged in prostitution millions would disappear. If we could remove those males and females who had considered engaging in prostitution many millions more would be gone. Now imagine we could make those who had ever used pot casually disappear,the streets are getting really lonely now. If the pot and / or prostitution people were suddenly gone then Clinton,Bush 2 and Obama would never have been president and there would probably be very few Frontiersman staff to publish a paper. Let"s repeal stupid laws. "

    Palmer Farm wrote on Oct 30, 2009 11:32 AM:

    " I get such a kick out of the armchair attorneys in here. Spouting out what the laws are, which ones the "police broke" blah blah blah. Amazing how many local hicks are legal experts! LOL! "

    Stuff wrote on Oct 30, 2009 10:19 AM:

    " at least ten state and federal counts of computer fraud and conspiracy to commit fraud were committed.

    didn't know it was legal to commit multiple felonies in order to pursue misdemeanors. "

    Tactical Genius wrote on Oct 30, 2009 10:02 AM:

    " Were the police doing their job? Yes.Do they need to lie about what they were actually doing? No.The police were their to make arrests.You don't use an adult female to catch pedophiles. Instead of making an add and arresting a few guys who obviously aren't minors, why not spread out your forces to arrest the three women posting adds.Then you take their phones and call the people that called them.Just imagine taking that call.The police would have the potential minor/trafficed female,and the potential johns are deterred.Now we have no hookers to call,and scared straight citizens.Many, many birds, three stones. "

    Rampant Burglary wrote on Oct 30, 2009 9:56 AM:

    " For those of you who have burglar alarms that call the police, perhaps you would get better service if you reprogram the call feature to indicate there is a "john" trying to solicit sex at your house and then the cops will get there quicker. I liked the Seinfeld episode where Jerry was ripped off and when the cop said we will get back to you if we find anything, Jerry said..."you never find anything do you?" The cop said "no, we never do". I think that the Wasilla/Palmer cops are trying to get on TV, like AST. "

    Press Hypocracy wrote on Oct 30, 2009 9:52 AM:

    " I love freedom of the press. I have written, been published, and enjoy reading well thought out press. I, as well as a majority of our neighbors, reap the benefits of a concienscous news source. But freedom of the press should not over-ride the right to remain innocent until proven guilty. Publish the names once in a blotter like everyone else. But Breaking news for three days, and then front page news? Don't convict in the press. While it is not expected that you defend an accused rights, you should make an effort to respect their rights. "

    Free bird wrote on Oct 30, 2009 9:50 AM:

    " What a waist of time and money. DEAL WITH THE METH!!! You are the capitial of meth in the state!!! "

    George O. wrote on Oct 30, 2009 9:38 AM:

    " The desire to exchange money for consensual adult sex is a crime. Provide dinner,drinks and maybe a movie first and it is not a crime. A teen age girl wants to abort the life of her unborn child without parental knowledge or consent . This is not a crime. This is freedom. Let's see... Desire is Crime. Murder is Freedom. Wait, there is more...War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery and Ignorance is Strength. Okay, now I understand, I am with the program . How about you? "

    Jeff Casten cont... wrote on Oct 30, 2009 9:10 AM:

    " According to my son's hockey coach one of the guys is a basketball coach for a group of young girls. I for one know if my daughter was on that team I would either pull her out of the league or demand that the coach be let go. I wouldn't want my daughter learning from this man. So funny everybody is quick to blame the cops, the paper, or anyone and anything else except the actual men who got caught. "

    Jeff Casten wrote on Oct 30, 2009 9:02 AM:

    " Come on! The names are a matter of public record. They can be viewed by anyone with a computer or those willing to go to the Police station and ask to see the daily arrest reports. The paper has been printing names and offenses in the police beat for years. DUI's, No license, Domestic violence ect... To the last poster (PRINTING NAMES) It was not the paper that humiliated these people they brought this on themselves. If this guy you know has a family and is productive in the community why was he looking for a prostitute? Cont... "

    to Oops wrote on Oct 30, 2009 9:02 AM:

    " How can you link pot,prostitution and child incest into one group? Are you saying if people smoke pot they must sexually molest children? Are you saying that sex between consenting adults where one derives financial gain leads to child incest? You do say,"Sex shouldn't be sold. It's sickening." This concept seems to anger you to the point that you feel EVERYONE including the families should be publically shamed for an act that did not even physically occur but was clearly an act of entrapment by the morality police. The Valley Enquirer sold papers,lives were devestated and small minds prevail. Wonderful. "

    law abiding person wrote on Oct 30, 2009 8:07 AM:

    " hey the skate park is closed for winter ,cops need something to do "

    Printing names wrote on Oct 30, 2009 2:27 AM:

    " I know one of these men. He is a good guy that has made a dumb mistake. He is a productive person in our community. The humiliation he feels should be a family matter between him, his wife, and his children. By printing his name we have also humiliated his wife and his kids... victomizing them again. Yes... there should be conequences for him that fits his crime, but we don't want to destoy his family by flashing a huge spotlight on them. I hope that we can let them fix themselves. "

    Oops wrote on Oct 29, 2009 2:41 PM:

    " I've lived in Alaska less then 15 yrs now and it amazes me of the loose thinking of people here. Pot growers, prostitution wah wah, we have worse crimes. Come one people all of it a crime whether drugs, prostitution, child incest, it's all crimes. If you don't want punishment you will live in a society that is full of people hurting one another, children missing and worthless lives. I for one am glad to see names in print, what happened to this society? Sex shouldn't be sold, it's sickening. "

    New Valley Imports wrote on Oct 29, 2009 1:07 PM:

    " Advertise the availability of an illegal service. Attract people from out of the area to commit a crime the cops proposed in the first place. The local police are in the unique position of importing two people into the Mat-Su to commit a crime police created. Does the community feel the need for law enforcement officers to bring people from Anchorage/Eagle River here to break the law by invitation? This whole thing smacks of public stocks,scarlet letters and the flight of rotting cabbages at the accused. What will it cost taxpayers to finish the official shaming process? "

    DANNY wrote on Oct 29, 2009 11:51 AM:

    " "RE Concerned" wrote: Just because your "God" says its immoral doesnt mean you have the right to force your personal limits upon others."???

    Society does this all the time with the approval of the majority of citizens.

    Think about speed bumps in a parking lot. They affect every driver because of the actions of a few miscreants.

    So please stop crying crocodile tears because a few "innocent men" got caught breaking an obviously sexist law. When was the last time a woman was arrested for engaging in the same activity? "

    Huntr wrote on Oct 29, 2009 11:20 AM:

    " Really guys? Really? They took downa prostitution ring in the middle of our quiet little palmer town. Why is everyone defending them or playing it off like its no big deal. ITS AGAINST THE LAW! They deserve whatever conviction and punishment they receive...and I personally hope it is severe "

    get over it its still crime wrote on Oct 29, 2009 10:24 AM:

    " all these posts about wasted tax dollars- it costs nothing to post on craigslist. You post your listing, go investigate other crimes, wait for these losers to contact you for a meeting, arrange for different close interval meetings, get your resources together, make your bust and be on your way. Sounds like a good plan. All you people concerned about craiglist policy are just worried they will be caught next. Good job for the agencies involved. If you want action do it the legal way with dinner and drinks. "

    concerned wrote on Oct 29, 2009 9:48 AM:

    " I feel sorry for the families of these men. To see their loved ones name in the paper like this is not easy to digest. I hope they get counseling to help them through this. "

    LJ wrote on Oct 29, 2009 9:21 AM:

    " I agree that printing the names of these men in the paper is very humilitating to them and their familes.I live and work in this valley and on a daily basis see alot more harmful activity going on that deserves more attention than this! It may be illegal to solicit sex,but think about it...they are paying for it,and you're not.....? "

    fiberfinn wrote on Oct 29, 2009 9:04 AM:

    " What a waste of money. More time should be spent sitting outside of bars looking for drunk drivers who actually kill people on the highway or here's an idea, how about spending time trying to solve valley crimes, instead of trying to create new ones. "

    Libertarian wrote on Oct 29, 2009 8:33 AM:

    " There is no evidence any of the "johns" were seeking out sex with minors. There is a good chance that some of these men were not married or in commited relationships. Should sex between consenting adults be a crime? Women in our society have the legal right to terminate life within the womb but we tell them they cannot have sex for profit. Kill a baby at will but don"t sell yourself to help pay the rent. What hypocrisy!!! Let's go after child molesters,ten years first offense,life for the second including priests who are never even charged. Wake up!!!!!! "

    Read the article wrote on Oct 29, 2009 8:23 AM:

    " Where does it say the Alaska State Troopers were involved "Nice police work"? This should be a clue that half of you don't read the article, and then comment on it. "

    Reserve Judgement wrote on Oct 29, 2009 7:57 AM:

    " The valley community likely has more churches than bars.I believe that is a good thing because our children learn not to prematurely judge others.Parents teach that as well.Police would not use a minor in this case. Police would not place a child in that situation.These are men who met with a woman at a time when the police were concentrating on making arrests.What we don't know is if the acussed are actually guilty of meeting for sex.Acussations do not equate to guilt.We should not judge or assume.We are better than that, aren't we?Rest your hammers, don't build the gallows prematurely. "

    Nothing to do with children wrote on Oct 29, 2009 7:53 AM:

    " What is up with you folks, this has nothing to do with Children! The Police violated the Craigslist policy, period, they broke policy. I advise Craiglist to file suit against those the break their policy, including law enforcement. Time for the police to do real police work like finding those child molesters that folks keep talking about here for this entrapment has NOTHING TO DO with children, nor did the sting. That just raises hype to this small and unimportant bust, how silly of the local law enforcement. The real criminals applaud you guys. "

    Smith Kid wrote on Oct 29, 2009 7:30 AM:

    " Iam amazed!

    Notatthefact thatnamesofpeopleIknowof arestupidenoughtodothis, butatthe numberofnegativecomments!

    Wow!

    If prostitution isnot a problem, then we need to remove the crimes from the books by legislation, but, until then, this IS a crime and therefore these ARE criminal actions, which, being criminal actions, they ARE being criminals, REAL criminals.

    This is how it works: Do a crime - be a criminal - suffer punishment.

    Don't do a crime - no punishment.

    The REST of us have this figured out already! "

    interesting wrote on Oct 29, 2009 7:02 AM:

    " IF anybody wanted to they MIGHT be able to find some of these guys on "My Space". You also MIGHT be able to go to Alaska Courts....click on trial court cases,...court view... type in certain names and see a list of offenses. However, even IF you see a familiar name there is a disclaimer stating that even if they are listed it doesn't mean they were guilty. ...hmmmm "

    Grateful wrote on Oct 28, 2009 11:13 PM:

    " Much thanks to our law enforcement officers for attacking one more insidious illegal activity here in the Valley that has not seen much publicity so far. I am truly surprised at how much opposition you have to face. Please, don't let this deter you and consider the source! "

    Nice police work wrote on Oct 28, 2009 11:07 PM:

    " Another big bust by the state troopers. First they take out a couple weed grows, now they go after some johns. Is there any victimless crime they aren't getting tough on out here? Kudos on another job well done, cops. Signed,
    The Real Criminals "

    palmeranian wrote on Oct 28, 2009 10:55 PM:

    " This type of operation should be a regular thing. Men who act like this endanger the lives and health of their wives and girlfriends.

    It's kind of sick that this is condoned by the communtiy. I was getting pretty disgusted with craigslist myself. "

    wake up community wrote on Oct 28, 2009 10:10 PM:

    " All of you who are whining about watsed tax dollars and pninting names of these "poor guys" need to wake up! One of the names mentioned in the article is someone who has been coaching 5th, 6th, 7th, & 8th grade girls basketball in our community for the past 5 years. I think if you had a daughter in this age group you would say it was money well spent. Great job Palmer and Wasilla PD, and thanks for protecting our kids. Innocent until proven guilty? Give me a break. They all went! "

    RxR wrote on Oct 28, 2009 9:15 PM:

    " Too bad so many resources that are supposely in short supply were wasted on something as useless as this. Don't ever ask for more taxes from me if this is how the Gov plans on wasting resources. "

    concerned wrote on Oct 28, 2009 8:59 PM:

    " many assumptions! we dont know that these girls were of age, our children need to be protected. this is not a joke, it is a serious matter. read those names, some of those men work with children and we dont know enough about the story...were the girls they were going after of age? i bet this is a going to get deep and i hope they go down. thank you valley police! protect our children! "

    While on a date wrote on Oct 28, 2009 7:50 PM:

    " I have seen prostitutes in a local Wasilla bar......won't take much to figure out which one. I have watched as I am a people watcher. Watched a guy watch a girl. Was worried for her and was about to say something when the "john" approached her. They went out the back door together........she came back in a few minutes later with cash in her hand..........watch the russian gals..........they don't go to bars with momma looking for a husband. I'll guarantee you that! I wonder why the bars have not been busted? "

    Give me a break wrote on Oct 28, 2009 7:48 PM:

    " So in 2 days they popped 10 guys. Why is everyone complaining? Drug busts, this, traffic stops it seems to me it is all part of the job. "

    RH. wrote on Oct 28, 2009 7:43 PM:

    " How is this not entrapment? I hope they got some other scumbags out of this deal, I don't think they can prosecute these people. "

    keepinmind wrote on Oct 28, 2009 5:56 PM:

    " Some of those named are well known throughout the valley as they work with our kids. The last person I want my daughter to be around is someone that engages in these activities, regardless of the criminal issue at hand. "

    jcdinaz wrote on Oct 28, 2009 5:56 PM:

    " WOW Tax dollars at good use...Talk about a complete waste of money. Mr. Turney feels the need to play big city police man. Try getting the prostitutes that would be more effective. Instead of playing one. I feel for the people of the valley the worst, because while the police were playing prostitute, all of the neighborhoods were getting ripped off. For the city of Palmer with a whopping 9 men I would think you would manage you man power better and put them to better use. "

    way to go wrote on Oct 28, 2009 5:16 PM:

    " Nobody likes their dark dirty secrets being posted all over the news. Let's be honest, most people don't get caught their first time out breaking the law they get caught because they get comfortable doing it. So probably every one of these men have broken the law over and over again, they just happened to get caught this time. Then they call foul and entrapment as if they weren't doing anything wrong. Just face it if your going to break the law eventually your going to get caught, Good job to our law enforcement. "

    Disappointed wrote on Oct 28, 2009 5:12 PM:

    " I am disappointed that PalmerPD and Frontiersman would release names of people in a case like this knowing that they will be prematurely judged harshly by society, and likely be considered guilty prior to ever stepping into court. I feel for these people and thier families who were likely named to invoke punishment/embarassment. If they were wrong, the courts should decide, not the PD or press. I would find it more useful to publish the names of DUI drivers, or violent offenders. Those acts kill and physically harm. Unproven allegations by press and police don't. "

    more wrote on Oct 28, 2009 5:10 PM:

    " Note (ADN) that the FBI was involved. This was not some little local investigation. It seems reasonable to me that the resources you're all yelling about we really part of something larger and who knows how many fish will be found. Yes, some "minor" (not) normal johns might have gotten caught up in it, but the investigation was to PROTECT OUR KIDS!!!

    Get a grip. Look in the mirror. This IS a big deal. "

    names wrote on Oct 28, 2009 5:08 PM:

    " Get over the names thing. Check out the police beat - all the names are printed. It's public record unless its a juvielle.

    As for bigger crimes... I'd like to see the scale. If you read the ADN story, you'll find this was part of an investigation regarding underage incidents. They might not have (yet) anything on the underage piece to print, but these guys were caught as part of THAT investigation. Pursing those that prey on our young is absolutely the right thing!
    Cont "

    LETS BE HONEST wrote on Oct 28, 2009 4:22 PM:

    " Its good that the Frontiersman publishes this stuff...it makes the paper interesting. Not a whole lot goes on in the valley so its good to read something amusing and they deserve to be embarrassed if they have to pay to "service their needs"...its better reading about Levi or Sarah...that became old...keep writing these stories Frontiersman! "

    Palmer Farm wrote on Oct 28, 2009 4:01 PM:

    " I've got one foot on either side of the fence on this one. On one hand, those men knew the law and broke it. Simple as that. Also, prostitution is rarely a "victimless" crime and those that frequent prostitutes often progress to worse crimes. No sympathy there. However, I also concur that there were probably more serious crimes that would have been a better candidate for thier attention. Also, printing the names of those caught was so obviously done just for the humiliation of it, and the entertainment value for everybody else. I wasn't impressed. "

    RE Concerned wrote on Oct 28, 2009 2:55 PM:

    " "knowing it is illegal and immoral" Yes, its illegal under the current law, but who are you to judge morals? When you attempt to dictate morals you create oppression. All I can say is screw all laws that are based on outdated Christian morals. Just because your "God" says its immoral doesnt mean you have the right to force your personal limits upon others. "

    Just Wondering... wrote on Oct 28, 2009 2:50 PM:

    " Seems like some of the folks who replied to this articel know where the Meth Labs are and locations where people are actually being abused.... ever considered calling the police department with that information? All that time you spent complaining may have saved a life. Maybe you could just type the addresses in here and see if our public servants can break that code and find them. A crime is a crime and tempatation is temptation. It's a choice. You get caught=You own it. Stand on the carpet and deal with it like a big kid. "

    Entrapment wrote on Oct 28, 2009 2:38 PM:

    " To lead somebody into doing something wrong; to lure into a compromising statement or act.
    According to Craigslist terms of use you agree not to post content that: g. Impersonates any person or entity i. Is false, deceptive, misleading, deceitful, misinformative, or constitutes "bait and switch" n. advertises any illegal services. So for all you geniuses, of the two police departments, you owe Craigslist $1000. for each post.
    I hope you didn't make more than two having only confiscated $2100. and a few cell phones in this act of utter foolishness. Go catch some real criminals. "

    Grandma Laughing wrote on Oct 28, 2009 2:27 PM:

    " Thanks for all of the printed names. Seves all of those men right. I wonder how sexual those men are now that their wives, children, friends and family all know?
    Now if the Frontiersman will only publish the pictures of sexual abusers. "

    Kyle wrote on Oct 28, 2009 2:16 PM:

    " Some of you are just ignorant. I work in a drug task force. Meth labs in the state have decreased drastically because of police efforts and most meth is imported now. Every adult that is arrested is named in a press release, not just these "poor johns". Police received complaints about this prostitution issue and they acted accordingly. Now, most will think twice about responding to an add for prostitution, thinking it might get them busted. Complain to your legislature if you don't like the law, not the police for enforcing it. "

    Concerned wrote on Oct 28, 2009 12:47 PM:

    " Is this really how far we have come as a society? The police did not call every man in the valley and ask them if they wanted to buy sex. These men made a consious decision to respond, fully intending to purchase sex, knowing it is illegal and immoral. Some of these guys may even work with young women or men in our community. We must protect our children from these sick people, I would not want my daughter (or my son for that matter) anywhere near these guys. Great job PPD, WPD! "

    come on wrote on Oct 28, 2009 12:42 PM:

    " All you geniuses calling this entrapment need to look up the word. These fine gentlement would have just met up with a real prostitute instead. They weren't coerced into it, they responded. Have you looked at Craigslist before? It's a rampant problem.

    And last I checked it wasn't a morality issue. It's a criminal law issue. "

    AMAZED wrote on Oct 28, 2009 12:22 PM:

    " How sad that our tax dollars are spent on catching grown men looking for adult women...how about we target the grown men that are after our UNDER AGE CHILDREN?? Now THAT would be something worth writing about!!! Come On Police Force...Do Your Jobs!!!!!!! "

    kristin wrote on Oct 28, 2009 11:46 AM:

    " I feel sorry for cops. They put their lives on the line and all we do is complain about them for doing their jobs. This sting was and is apart of their jobs and all I see is a bunch of uneducated people complaining about them. Grow up... "

    Mr. Priority wrote on Oct 28, 2009 11:19 AM:

    " You have got to be kidding me! I work in conjunction with the drug intradiction teams on Ft. Rich and they convey to me that they can stay busy 24 hours a day, 7 days a week busting people for meth labs and selling dope. Priorities and the most bang for our tax dollars. Thanx for nothing. I feel it is much safer for our kids out there now. I will remember this at election time and budget approval time. "

    finally wrote on Oct 28, 2009 11:03 AM:

    " Finally, I want to say that on-line predators (which is what these men are) should be stopped the same as those who prey on our youth (pedophiles ), etc. If they did this then they are CRIMINALS and pursuing it was the right thing to do. I’ll rest easier knowing they’ve been caught. Keep up the good work. "

    continued wrote on Oct 28, 2009 11:00 AM:

    " (Cont)
    I, for one, would not want my son or daughter to grow up believing there is no victim in this – or that the johns were the victims. As for 70% of men doing this – you need to find a better caliber of friend – head to your local church and consider who you are. I believe you speak out of guilt yourselves. I agree with the person who said that all criminals think there is a bigger criminal that the police should pursue. My advice to those who don’t see the harm: try some self-reflection. "

    grow up wrote on Oct 28, 2009 10:59 AM:

    " To all those defending the "johns," I say, "grow up." First, it is a crime and for the police not to pursue it would be dereliction. Prostitution is NOT victimless. I am not only referring to those stuck in the sex trafficking world as the victims (they are). But I am also speaking of the families and others affected by their actions. These "poor johns" would have a high likelihood of spread STDs to their wives, girlfriends, etc. Additionally, objectify people as sex objects does hurt all of society. (more) "

    weird wrote on Oct 28, 2009 10:57 AM:

    " We are only hearing one side of this and im sure every body else would like to hear what profile the COPS set up for these guys to respond to? These are all grown men and i can see why you made the arrest if you said you were under 18? Share the rest of the story!! We spend our tax money to keep you employed so why dont you help the town and crack down on all the METH labs that are running this town! "

    Mary wrote on Oct 28, 2009 10:26 AM:

    " Maybe they shouldnt of tried to solicit under age girls for sex, real or not, they broke the law. Posting their names is probably a good deturent for other men, dont you think?
    I think posting names of those who broke this kind of law is appropriate and will actually help. "

    Magpie wrote on Oct 28, 2009 10:16 AM:

    " Why O why was it that these resource dollars were not spent on the many backlogged abuse case complaints received through DYFS? There are many, many, many DFYS case complaints ON FILE where abuses including sex abuses are going unresponded to--and yet valuable resources are used to entrap these lonely losers? Few of these charges will stick, and girls stuck in sexually abusive foster homes will keep wondering when the cops will show up.


    The Frontiersman also needs to reconsider it's role in mixing up journalism with being a moral authority instead of a local paper. "

    offsoapstone wrote on Oct 28, 2009 9:48 AM:

    " Just what the valley needs morality cops. Watch out ladies if you don't cover your head and wear a veil on your face you'll get arrested and whipped for your sin..................Thank god I don't shop in palmer and wasilla very much to help support stupidity like this. It's also called entrapment in my opinion. If I was on the jury they'ed be free men. "

    wow wrote on Oct 28, 2009 9:24 AM:

    " So much for being innocent before proven guilty. "

    Taxpayer wrote on Oct 28, 2009 9:22 AM:

    " Our tax dollars hard at work fighting viscious crime. Good job - these guy you caught were very dangerous!!!!! I feel safer now that I will not be solicated for sex. "

    DrLongBear wrote on Oct 28, 2009 8:57 AM:

    " I am limited to 100 words to describe how pathetic the journalistic abilities of the Frontiersman's reporters'/editors' are...let alone having anything left over for the shame these cops pulled. Are these men now considered sex offenders? Publish their names, publish their names?!? This is unconscionable! It lacks journalistic integrity...these men were victims. What about the names of the cops involved? Or, how about the name of the person(s) who placed the ads on Craig's list? Yet another reason for the Valley to hang its collective head in shame...shame on you APD, PPD, WPD & fbi...SHAME! "

    RZ wrote on Oct 28, 2009 8:45 AM:

    " "Asked if prostitution was a problem in the Valley, he replied, “by the number of phone calls that we received in a two-day period, I'd say it's a problem.”

    I'm not seeing that problem. There were no real prostitutes and the "johns" themselves only exist as "johns" because of the fake police prostitutes. "

    Boater wrote on Oct 28, 2009 8:06 AM:

    " If law enforcement was directed by popularity then only the criminals and the victims would have a say. With all the 'nay-sayers" to this story I have to wonder which ones are complaining. It is amazing to me on how many sound like the "johns" were victims of a bogus police action. I bet their wives and kids think otherwise. I say keep the sting going until the phone stops ringing!! "

    TTOSBT wrote on Oct 28, 2009 7:22 AM:

    " Suggest that anyone who thinks some of those arrested are "just johns" check out the number of court cases many of them have been involved in over the years. I once thought prostitution should be legalized, regulated by inspection and taxed. However, my mind has been changed because of how drugs, alcoholism and violence demean and enslave women and men (some as minors) in the trade. This is one taxpayer who is glad to see some enforcement time and money spent this way. "

    Happy wrote on Oct 28, 2009 7:07 AM:

    " Eveyone keep complaining. These are not law abiding citizens, one of them is in the police beat fairly often. As a tax payer I am in support! Prostitutes are USUALLY not happy with themselves enough to stay away from drugs and or alcohol. I know I would like my daughter to see this as a crime and not another way of life to buy a cheeseburger and dope! "

    News Seeker wrote on Oct 28, 2009 5:33 AM:

    " "For more of this story, check Friday's Frontiersman"....or read it in today's ADN. Good try at cheap drama Frontiersman. "

    justwondering wrote on Oct 27, 2009 10:52 PM:

    " Everybody seems awfully upset about the police doing their jobs. What's wrong? See a name up there you don't want to see? They were breaking the law and deserved to be busted and I'm glad to see my tax dollars going to good use. Good job to all the law enforcement out doing their job. Us law abiding citizens really appreciate all of the hard work you do for us. So THANK YOU!!!! "

    Does it surprise you wrote on Oct 27, 2009 10:40 PM:

    " When a majority of the comments (comments thus far) say that "bad" (solicitation) is good and "good" (protecting our families from degradation,STD's, and sexual slavery ) is bad, we see history repeating itself. Those who watch quietly, should start expressing what the moral majority think. It appear as if we need to double our police forces; not demean those officers who are doing an excellent job. My observation over the years is that law-abiding citizens rarely have a "beef" with the police. It's usually those who are caught breaking the law who hold a grudge and complain. "

    Circus Today Circus Everyday wrote on Oct 27, 2009 9:38 PM:

    " MS 13 gang members have recently been spotted in Palmer. This Salvadoran gang and other criminal drug peddlers and thieves are becoming visually present in the valley. As they take root it appears the police are doing nothing to counter them. I guess it is a lot safer to bust "johns" most of whom probably have no criminal back ground. They won't be a threat to the brave officers of the morality police. This is really a joke. It is time for our police to "man up" and take on the real criminal predators and earn the respect of society. "

    Huh wrote on Oct 27, 2009 7:59 PM:

    " Wasilla and Palmer teamed up to do this. And they wonder why we don't want to be incorporated into the Wasilla city limits. Fools like this wasting taxpayer money to catch a bunch of johns rather than patrolling our neighborhoods, busting dope dealers, catching wife beaters and other things much higher on the list of crimes against morality. What a bunch of losers! Nope, this isn't a mean post, just one that points out the joke we have for a police department. Whats next Jentry Craine? A bomb squad too? "

    john doe wrote on Oct 27, 2009 7:53 PM:

    " Sex and The City! Who would have guessed "

    Shakin my head wrote on Oct 27, 2009 7:36 PM:

    " Now that Palmer PD sent all the bad guys to jail on this highly effect under cover operation, I guess they will need to come up with another way to round up the next batch of criminals? I notice that a lot of kids J-walk when leaving the middle school. It sounds like a problem that the "task force" should address? Or the sometimes poor parking skills of shoppers at Target? Its comforting to know that PPD has cleaned up the real crime and had the time and resources to attack these other issues before they get out of control. "

    Justathought wrote on Oct 27, 2009 7:30 PM:

    " "For more of this story check Friday's Frontiersman." This is akin to tabloid journalism. Are your circulation numbers so low you have to resort to what, in my opinion by the cops, is clearly entrapment? Why don't you go out and find a real story? You donut gobblers need to go after the real criminals, and you both might be surprised what a little exercise will do for your mind and your body. "

    John doe wrote on Oct 27, 2009 7:27 PM:

    " How in the world do you get an online e mail address
    for Prostitution in Wasilla\Palmer Alaska?
    I'm curious how those boys got that email address. "

    To Dennis O... wrote on Oct 27, 2009 7:17 PM:

    " Hardly a waste of tax dollars. Since when do you get to choose which laws to abide by and which not to? Stick to your own sad online newspaper...
    Thank you Frontiersman for letting us know our police dept considers ALL crime, REAL crime. "

    john doe wrote on Oct 27, 2009 5:52 PM:

    " wow,good job palmer police department,realy took abite out of crime boys!! "

    Laughable wrote on Oct 27, 2009 3:54 PM:

    " "Turn otherwise law-abiding citizens? Really??? So these losers wouldn't be soliciting the real prostitues anyhow?
    Everyone always thinks cops should be going after someone worse. "

    Valley trash wrote on Oct 27, 2009 3:29 PM:

    " Totally agreed! Our streets are so much safer now they took care of those "Johns". AS IF... Who's bright idea was it to put this sting on the priority list when it seems there are reports of home invasions every other day? "

    Jeez wrote on Oct 27, 2009 3:02 PM:

    " This is sad that the Police found it neccessary to smear these poor "Johns" names all over and ruin their reputation. It may have been paid but it wasn't forced. I would say at least 70% of men have (or will) paid a prostitute at least once in their lives. Lets go after real crime folks! "

    Unknown wrote on Oct 27, 2009 2:55 PM:

    " After that exhausting 5 grow marijuana raid last week(resulting in three major arrests) this is just law enforcements way of letting us know they are after the real criminals and don't only go after the dreaded pot farmer.
    I have to wonder if the tables were turned how many of their"own" would have falenl for this. I'm guessing only about half taking into account the stellar reputation our so called Troopers have. "

    crimes.... wrote on Oct 27, 2009 2:18 PM:

    " I feel much safer now that the cops have cleared the streets of the "johns". To bad they can't be as effective getting the real criminals off our streets. Like those people breaking into our homes and ripping us off to support their drug habit. I've never heard of a "john" breaking into someone's house. Good job crime fighters. "

    Dennis O. wrote on Oct 27, 2009 1:39 PM:

    " What a waste of tax dollars paying these cops to turn otherwise law-abiding citizens into criminals. When we have real prostitutes strutting their stuff in downtown Palmer, then let's talk about "a problem". Ridiculous. "

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